How to Try the Spirits

Don't Believe Every Spirit, But Try It to See if it is of God

1Jn_4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

God has in His great compassion, taught us to not believe every spirit. Some people don't believe in spirits. If you don't believe in spirits, then you don't believe in God. God is a spirit. If you are not trying spirits, then you are very likely believing in spirits that are not of God. We are commanded to try the spirits.

What is a Spirit?

Quite simply, there are physical bodies and spirits. When we are born, we have the spirit of life in our body. When we die, this spirit of life goes back to God who gave it. And our body returns to the dust. Only God can make us alive, and it is through his power, not our own.

Joh 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:4 Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born?
Joh 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
Joh 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.
Joh 3:7 Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.

Spiritual Death and Being "Born Again"

When we sin, we die spiritually. This type of reference to "spirit" is the eternal spirit. God told Adam he would die if he sinned. Satan caused Eve and Adam to disbelieve and then disboey God (lack of faith and resulting work of disobedience). When we are "born again", then our spirit is born again. See John 1. We are made alive spiritually.

Spiritually Minded

What does it mean to be "spiritually minded"? Some people talk about being "spiritually minded". A 2x2 is can be very "spiritually minded". Being "spiritually minded" is not always good. Being spiritually minded does not mean that a person is Godly. It means that they believe and are interacting with spirits. Many 2x2s are heavily involved in spirits, including seducing spirits.

Commandments

From the very beginning, God in great love and compassion gave commandments to men. Satan convinced Eve to disobey God's commandments (sin) and death resulted. The reason to try the spirits is to avoid death and eternity in hell. Because of the emphasis in scripture in Genesis, I believe one of the first tests or trying of a spirit is "Does this spirit encourage me to keep the commandments of God?" Here are more questions and I will explain why these questions are so VERY relevant afterwards.

Questions to Try Spirits

  • Does the spirit encourage you to keep the commandments of God? or does it encourage rebellion and fill you with pride?
  • Does the spirit desire and seek knowledge and the fear of God? or does it give knowledge against scripture?
  • Does the spirit desire and seek understanding of God? or does it contradict God?
  • Does the spirit desire and seek purity, sanctity and holiness? or does it make you sinful and dirty?
  • Does the spirit desire and seek wisdom of God? or does it promote foolishness?
  • Does the spirit seek counsel of God, Bible, Christians and God's power? or does it seek counsel of rebellious people?
  • Does the spirit desire sound judgment of God? or does it promote moral relativism, pacifism and apathy?

2x2s Hate Spirit of God

One of the first things a 2x2 will complain about Christians is their spirit. They often say about Christians that they don't have a spirit of love (they feel convicted of their sin). It doesn't matter how kindly or nicely the gospel is told them. 2x2s hate the spirit of God. They want the familiar spirit, a seducing spirit that tickles their ears and feeds their rebellion and pride. They want people to give them counsel that they want to hear and that justifies their sin.

Isa_30:1 Woe to the rebellious children, saith the LORD, that take counsel, but not of me; and that cover with a covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin:

Do You Have to PROFESS to Hate Spirit of God?

No, you don't have to PROFESS in meetings to receive an evil spirit in the 2x2 meetings. I have seen former kind, loving Christians have radical personality changes after meeting attendance and seeking advice of 2x2s. Once they quit loving God with their whole heart, idolizing cult members (some claim that the cult member they know would "never lie") and dishonor their parents they start seeking after the seducing spirit that fills them with pride and rebellion.

Is There a Spirit of Love?

There is no "spirit of love" ever mentioned in the Bible. Love is a fruit of the spirit of God, not a spirit. You cannot duplicate God's love through man's will power. You have to be born again through faith in God. Imitation love, flattery etc is just self-will and not a fruit of the spirit of God. Love is obeying the commandments of God. 2x2s will try to redefine "love" to mean "whatever pleases them". If you don't please them, then you are being "unloving" or "don't have the spirit of love."

Evil Spirits

There are evil spirits: lying spirits (I Kings 22:22), familiar spirits (I Sam 28:7), evil spirit (Judges 9:23), deep sleep (Isa 29:10),

King James Bilble Note

Spirit (capital "S") refers to God's Spirit in Bible. Lowercase "spirit" is spirit of man, evil spirit etc.

Why Try the Spirits

1Jn_4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

We are to try the spirits because God commands us to and He loves us.

Gift of Discernment Given by Holy Spirit

1Co 12:3 Wherefore I give you to understand, that no man speaking by the Spirit of God calleth Jesus accursed: and that no man can say that Jesus is the Lord, but by the Holy Ghost.
1Co 12:4 Now there are diversities of gifts, but the same Spirit.
1Co 12:5 And there are differences of administrations, but the same Lord.
1Co 12:6 And there are diversities of operations, but it is the same God which worketh all in all.
1Co 12:7 But the manifestation of the Spirit is given to every man to profit withal.
1Co 12:8 For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit;
1Co 12:9 To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit;
1Co 12:10 To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:

1Co 12:11 But all these worketh that one and the selfsame Spirit, dividing to every man severally as he will.
Joh_4:23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him.
Joh_4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Types of Spirits

God is a spirit. We obviously have a fleshly body, a soul, a heart, a mind, and a spirit. There are also angels, which are spirits. And there are devils which are spirits. Satan is a fallen angel, and angels are spirits. Therefore the Devil/Satan is a spirit. He is the great accuser of the brethren.

Joh_4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Jesus Christ said he is the Truth. Unless we are in the Lord Jesus Christ, we cannot worship the Father "in spirit and in truth". And "spirit" here refers to our reborn spirit, not God's Spirit.

Rev_3:1 And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art dead.

Spirit of God and the Seven Spirits

God is a Spirit. The Holy Ghost is a Spirit. The Holy Ghost was with Mary and Jesus Christ was the son of the Holy Ghost/ Son of God. Since the Father, Son and Holy Ghost are God. There are seven spirits of God.

The seven spirits of God are referred to in Revelation and references to these same spirits are referred to throughout the Bible.

Satan

Now we get to another matter. Satan is a spirit. And please pay close attention to these words. Don't harden your heart. Satan does not want you to read the rest of this page. In fact, he would love to distract you from learning the truth.

2Co 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

PROFESSING

As a child, I sat in meetings. I was present as the spirit was in the meeting. You know, the same spirit that the workers summon in the meetings in your area. When I "professed" in a "tested meeting" (satanic practice), I received a spirit into my life. I cried in confusion on my way home. I had been lured and deceived by Satan. This is in stark contrast to the spirit born in me when I made Jesus my Lord and Saviour. When I received Jesus, I rejoiced in heart and an immense unspeakable joy filled my soul. I was alive and my soul rejoiced in the LORD. I was a babe in Christ. That which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

As a Youth

As a youth, I sat in the meetings and meditated on the words of the WORKERS. I was a devout follower of the 2x2 WORKERS' way. In my teens, I sat on the couch one day and begged for the spirit of the WORKERS into my life. I received this spirit and it began making my life hell slowly but surely. I thought I had received the Spirit of God, but it was not. My life showed it. I was not born again. I was sad, confused but had a form of godliness, but no power and lacked in true love. I learned how to condemn and punish and imitate just like the workers. How did I later find out? By trying the spirit. I eventually had to cast it out through the name of Jesus Christ. Satan would love for you to believe he and other devils don't exist. You may remember another man who worshiped Jesus who had many devils. He was called "legion".

Luk_8:30 And Jesus asked him, saying, What is thy name? And he said, Legion: because many devils were entered into him.
Mar 5:5 And always, night and day, he was in the mountains, and in the tombs, crying, and cutting himself with stones. But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him, And cried with a loud voice, and said, What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not. For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit. And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many. And he besought him much that he would not send them away out of the country. Now there was there nigh unto the mountains a great herd of swine feeding. And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them. And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand;) and were choked in the sea. And they that fed the swine fled, and told it in the city, and in the country. And they went out to see what it was that was done. And they come to Jesus, and see him that was possessed with the devil, and had the legion, sitting, and clothed, and in his right mind: and they were afraid.

PROFESSING

I learned how to gain power from the spirit of the devil. I would read the Bible, think of a few catchy words and "nice" things to say on Saturday night and then say them with a strained voice and imitation of truth in the Sunday morning meeting. This is the spirit of the devil. The devil and demons speak through people. It may contort their face and speak in a different way. Here's what legion said through the man when Jesus Christ commanded him to leave, "What have I to do with thee, Jesus, thou Son of the most high God? I adjure thee by God, that thou torment me not." Listen in Sunday morning meetings when people pray. It is not their natural voice. Look at their faces. They are not talking to you like they normally do. This evidence of demons possessing people in the meetings. It is NOT the spirit of God. I will show you the questions you can "try" the spirits with based on scripture. The spirit of the devil can be transformed into a spirit/angel of light. But there are subtle differences. The devil is the most subtle beast of all the creatures God created.

Gen_3:1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

Going Into the Work

Satan tried to kill me when I first became a worker. Satan knew that God had a plan for my life. I was left to die in little trailer while CONVENTION (the 2x2s annual meeting) at Boring OR went on. The workers left me saltine crackers and water as my body was ravaged by food poisoning. Salmonella, a deadly bacteria called food poisoning that kills people, from tainted fish, eggs or chicken was killing me. Many of the WORKERS at Boring Convnention on Howard Mooney's Oregon Staff knew I had food poisoning, but didn't offer to help me get to a physician. Satan was doing his work and the WORKERS were doing Satan's work. I lay there sick for days on end. Vomiting and diarhea. Then I got dehydrated. And I got the chills and then the shakes. The WORKERS were in the meetings and the WORKERS had started CONVENTION. They didn't want the meetings shut down because of food poisoning in the kitchen. Is this the Spirit of God or the spirit of the devil to deny someone access to a doctor when they are dying of food poisoning?

Worker Work and the Seducing Spirit

I learned as a worker how to be subtle, speak with guile and deceive people. I learned through the spirit/ devil that was in me. We would focus before meetings on the Bible, clearing our minds and reading the Bible. I would take verses, read the cult beliefs into them and add a few nice sentences and thoughts. I was ready for meeting. This is in stark contrast to those that are born of the spirit. Read the scripture on this and do not harden your heart. If you have a hard heart, you cannot receive the understanding of God.

Joh 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be? Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things? Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things? And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.

Satan on Trial

Heb 4:12 For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit, and of the joints and marrow, and is a discerner of the thoughts and intents of the heart.

In a court room, a judge sits. People are sworn in and witnesses testify. How do people prove innocence or guilt? Questions. Jesus Christ, the great Counselor, asked questions to divide between the thoughts and intents of the heart. He divided between the soul and the spirit. You can test the spirits of 2x2s and their followers by their disbelief in the commandments of God.

The First Question: Who is exalted and praised?

Here's a question to ask: Who is lifted up? Satan cannot praise the Lord. He hates God.
Ask yourself, how many times per meeting have you ever heard a worker or said yourself in a fellowship meeting, "Praise the LORD"?
It's ok, you don't have to lie to me. I'm going to heaven. I know how to try the spirits because I've learned from God. If you lie to yourself, you deceive yourself. Are you angry at me for asking you a question to reveal your spirit? If so, then you know beyond doubt that you have a spirit that is not of God. You need to repent and believe the gospel. You need to be born again and have this devil cast out of your life. It is not of God. If your heart overflows with joy at reading this and you thank God that this is written, it is the Spirit of God.

Who is Lord and Master?

When the workers told me to quit reading and praying with a friend, I started interviewing workers. I asked a worker, "If a worker tells me to do something against what is in the Bible, should I obey the worker or God? She told me that I should obey the workers. That brings the next question:
Who is exalted as Master?

When someone else tells you to do something against the scripture, and you show them the scripture and they refuse it, it is not of God. Read what the spirit of God does in regard to Jesus words:

Joh 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me: And ye also shall bear witness, because ye have been with me from the beginning.

As a worker, I learned how to testify of myself and the workers. For example, I learned to take John 10 (which is all about Jesus the Good Shepherd) and insinuate that I and my companion and others in the 2x2s were not hirelings but were good shepherds because we claimed we didn't take a salary. That wasn't what the scripture was teaching. It was teaching that Jesus is the Good Shepherd and Jesus Christ is the one who lays down his life for his sheep. But many fell for the message within the message because they were not God's sheep. All I had to do was quote scripture, change it a little and exalt the workers. What did Jesus say about others? Joh 10:8 All that ever came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them. What did John the Baptist (a man of God) say? Joh 3:29 (He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled. He must increase, but I must decrease.) Another example is how we insinuated as workers that we were apostles because we went out in pairs. All we had to do as workers was mention a couple of keywords in a verse and say something nice and people believed us. I even believed my own lies.

Speaks the Truth or Lies

Satan is a sneaky, tricky, subtle liar. He speaks with guile. He quotes scripture and uses nice thoughts but his intent is evil.

Ask the overseers questions. When did the group form? Write down the answers and research it. People who lie are hating you in their heart.

Pro 26:28 A lying tongue hateth those that are afflicted by it; and a flattering mouth worketh ruin.

As a worker, we used flattery and praise to encourage people to come to meetings. But in the meetings we lied and deceived. We tricked people subtily to think that we were the truth. And we ignored Jesus' words when he said Joh 14:6 (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.) We led people to believe that no one could come to the father except by professing through us in a tested meeting. And people bought it because they didn't know God and trusted us slothfully instead of trying to understand the word of God.

Satan Cannot Cast Out Satan

The apostles of Jesus Christ were given power over devils to cast them out.
Have you ever seen a worker cast out a demon?

They said about Jesus that he had a devil. But Jesus was casting out devils. He explained this to them:

Mar 3:22 And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils. And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan? And if a kingdom be divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand. And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end. No man can enter into a strong man's house, and spoil his goods, except he will first bind the strong man; and then he will spoil his house. Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation: Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.

Someone who claims to be an apostle of Jesus Christ who cannot cast out devils does not have the Spirit of God. Satan can tranform himself into an angel of light and his ministers can transform themselves into ministers of righteousness, but you can tell whose side they are on when it comes down to casting out devils and praising the LORD.

Commanded to Love

Jesus commands us to love one another and love God; not to lie, deceive, manipulate and speak with guile nor twist the word of God.

2Jn 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son. If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed: For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.

More Questions to Try a Spirit

  • Does this spirit lead to the same understanding as given in scripture?
  • Does this spirit love knowledge, or does it hate to hear about God: Father,m Son and Holy Ghost?
  • Does this spirit give a revelation opposed to Bible and teachings of Jesus Christ?
  • Does this spirit make people feel special and above Christians?
  • Does this spirit seek counsel or exalt itself above God?
  • Does this spirit lead to pride or is it subject to God?
  • Does this spirit love as Jesus Christ loves?
  • Does this spirit bring believers together to uphold Jesus Christ as head?

Spirits- Home

Lying Spirit

Try Spirits

Familiar Spirit

Seducing Spirits

Spirit of God

Haughty Spirit

Dumb and Deaf

Spirit of Error

Slumber and Sleep

Unclean Spirits

Spirit of Infirmity

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