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Goal of 2x2 Overseers

The ultimate work of the overseer is to twist the meaning of scripture and use subtle abusive behaviour to gain prestige and power and ultimately destroy souls so far that they come to hate God.

This is easily proven given that:
  1. Their staff of workers keep the overseers rules and reject the teachings of God
  2. Their workers don't know God nor His commandments
  3. Their workers despise people that would tell them about God
  4. They preach a distorted view of God and create conflict and havoc in people's minds so far that many have become mentally ill
  5. People who leave the cult often say to the affect "I'm never going to get involved with religion again". May join other cults (because they have been conditioned to the abuse) or become atheist or agnostic.

Why Workers are Not of God and Can be Safely Ignored

  1. Overseers don't know God and don't understand teachings of Christ
  2. Overseers teach their own rules handed down by early cult leaders and reject the teachings of God
  3. Overseers break the commandments of God and teach others to do the same
  4. Overseers encourage workers and their followers to idolize them
  5. Overseers discourage and reject workers and their followers who are seeking to know God. When these people ask questions about the cult and its origins, they may be slandered and "excommunicated"
Definition of 2x2 Overseer
2x2 overseer definition: A member of the 2x2 movement chosen by other overseers of usually adjoining geographical proximities to replace an overseer who has "fallen" from his place or is "no longer able". Overseers take upon themselves to approve or disapprove the hiring of workers in the area they suppose to "oversee".

Power Struggles

The 2x2 ruling group is composed of workers who are in a continual power struggle. Many gain power by their supposed submission (idolatry rather) to the current overseer and earn "points" this way. Others manipulate their way to the top through pleasing important people and trying to gain favor. It has been this way from the very first when William Irvine gained power by despising others and setting himself up as a supposed gift of God to mankind. Workers struggle to gain popularity in their field, struggle to gain a good field that earns them more money and if they are ambitious, to rise to the rank of overseer. Many choose to go overseas where they are free to preach their different revelations and gain a hero's welcome when they return to their home field.

Overseer Hiring Practices

When you get the job, you must be approved by the local overseer. They decide if you are allowed to preach. If they don't like you for any reason, you won't be allowed to preach in meetings. If you did try to preach, they would make it intolerable for you to continue by their typical slander of you to other followers etc.

Overseer Firing Practices

Overseers fire people for any reason they want. If a person is sick and has too much medical bills, then they just take their name off the worker's list. Then people know they are "no longer in the work" and quit supporting them with money.

Overseers Geographical Boundaries

Overseers usually restrict their activities to geographical boundaries because of conflicting interpretations of practices of the group. For example, in Colorado they encourage people to remarry after they divorce. In California, it isn't permitted (at least not now, but their teachings change frequently). Boundaries are usually drawn at state lines.

2x2 Overseer Abusive Control Over Workers or His Staff

First, all overseers are men. Women are never allowed such authority. The only authority that women are allowed is to act as workers and then only as long as they are agreeing with the overseers.

2x2 overseers hold control over the workers through several preplanned abusive tactics established by William Irvine:
  1. The greatest control is the hurdles that workers are required to go through to get into the work. This makes them very receptive to whatever the overseers have to say. When workers go into the work, they are required to sell everything and give it away (usually to the elder workers who give the money to the overseer). Also, they are required to never marry. So a new worker has: no money, no friends and family close by and is moved to a new location to preach the 2x2 message. While no reasonable person would do this, these people are under the mind control of the workers and overseer and firmly believe (they will discredit or silence opposing thoughts) that they are actually being called by God.
  2. Overseers make the list as to where workers go to preach and which companion they are with. This gives them tremendous power over the lives of workers who must live with the consequences of this list for a whole year. Whoever makes the list holds the power. The workers are indoctrinated from when they first enter the 2x2 work that they must go "anywhere with anyone" when the list comes out. Workers may or may not be asked about where they would like to be or with whom.
  3. Overseers enforce the rules of workers not preaching a doctrine in a field of other workers that contradicts with the current worker's teachings. They do this by spreading stories and preaching against the other person's ideas. They will also have a "visit" with them. This is supposed to help maintain some sort of unity, but truth be told, they have so many contradictions in their teachings from the Bible that it's a hopeless cause.
  4. Overseers can spread lies about a worker to other workers and let the gossip ruin the workers reputation. Overseers are viewed like Gods because of their public appearances and smiling and preaching about God. But people don't see the abusive tactics these overseers use behind closed doors. Workers put out of the work by the overseers must keep silent for fear of the humiliating things the overseers can "let slip" about them. Also the the people kicked out of the work often feel that they have "fallen" from their place and blame themselves even if they did something good and got punished for it.
  5. They can visit that workers field and make comments to put them a worker "out of favor". If a worker is teaching a doctrine that the overseer doesn't like, then he may "visit" that field and the workers will be obligated to ask the overseer to preach in their meeting. Then the overseer may use this platform to correct the "other" doctrine and preach his own. He may mention in his preaching that anyone who disagrees with this is ignorant or use some other claim to discredit and silence any opposition. Often this preaching is put in allegory form but those who know what is going on get the "message" within the "message". The lack of openness of the message does not lessen it's strength in the cult setting, but rather accentuates it.
  6. They can "lean" on the worker by "going for a walk" with them and saying things to them in private
  7. Overseers also hold control by how much money they give out of the fund for medical expenses and whether they allow a worker to receive medical treatment from the fund.
  8. Overseers have financial control because workers are not allowed to have jobs on the side to make money, except in the case where they are preaching in a country where it is illegal to proselytize and they use a job as cover.
  9. Overseers control how much money workers make by which "field" they put them into.
  10. Overseers take things that the workers say and twist them to manipulate and control people into believing certain things about them which may not be true but have the desired effect the overseer wants.
  11. The overseer has power to just remove a worker from off the workers list and then the worker has no choice but to "lose their place" in the "work". This may happen with or without any notice.
  12. Through strict rules the workers crave the approval of the overseer so that they can rise in the ranks of the overseer's staff. Some workers are "groomed" to become an overseer and others are cast aside and given tough places to preach the 2x2 way.

How Overseers Gather Money - Harold Bennett and Stanley Sullivan

While it is common for workers to not ask for money, this is definitely not the case for overseers.

There are three ways overseers gather money:
  1. Wills - The overseers collect money through the wills of people who die in the field and leave money to them. They may tell the person who is going to die to leave it in the name of a money handler who then gives cash to the overseer so it is not traceable.
  2. Annual convention money gathering - Overseers assign an older worker who is on the "in" to gather all the money of the staff of workers at their home annual convention. They then take this money that they claim is going towards "expenses", claim to equally divide it up the rest and distribute the remained back to the workers. This is what I learned while in the "work". Stanley Sullivan was the one who asked me for money when I went into the "work" in Boring Oregon while Duncan Hunter owned the property. This was done my first year in the work and also I believe at Ronan convention grounds in Ronan, MT. The overseers gather enough money this way to travel overseas and to tour across the country to different conventions and "special meetings" and buy meals at nice restaurants.
  3. Meeting rounds - As overseers tour other countries and special meeting rounds and stay in the wealthier people homes, these people give money to them.

Don't file Taxes - Taught by Older Workers to their Younger Companions

I've never met an overseer that files taxes or has registered his business as a non-profit group. I've heard from Joel Lewis that many of them use several wealthy "elders" to manage their money. Doug Corcoran told my dad that he manages money for Harold Bennet and invests it in the stock market. I've also been told that overseers tell the elders to pay the taxes on the money so they keep it out of their name. I've also heard that they keep the money spread out over many elders so that each one doesn't know how much money the other has.

Overseers employ many workers. They assign them companions (someone of the same sex to work with) and fields (geographical areas that they are assigned to work in). They also tell them how long they are to work in that field. Workers are forbidden to take jobs or preach for other churches or earn other income.

Salarying Sick Workers

Some members have reported that workers who are ill are reduced to mimimal salaries about about $200 per month provided they continue in the work when they are well.

Discrimination Against Women

Women are never allowed to be overseers. If a man worker teaches something, a woman worker is not to contradict them. If a man worker comes to a meeting, then the woman workers must let him speak in the meeting if he wants to.

Names of overseers or former overseers in world include:

USA: Harold Bennett is overseer of Oregon Ralph Sines was the previous overseer of Oregon Howard Mooney was the previous overseer of Oregon before Ralph Sines Other previous overseers: Jack Carrol, Willie Jamieson, Everett Swanson Australia: Ray Corbett, Clyde Jamieson, Albert Barnes (now deceased), Clyde McKay (NSW) England: Ben Crompton

2x2 Overseer Questions

  • Why do overseers collect money from all the workers at annual conventions?
  • What do the overseers do with all the money?
  • Why don't the overseers disclose how much money they make?
  • Why do the overseers put their money in other people's names and move money into foreign bank accounts?
  • Why do the overseers have power to kick people out of the cult without reason?
  • Why do people financially support the overseer?
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    Page last updated on 2010-07-04