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2x2 Elders

This is what I have learned after being raised in the cult, been a worker and traveled through over 50 states and been to meetings in most states.

2x2 Elders are not Christians

God said to love others. If we lie, we hate. 2x2 elders lie about the cult beginnings. Therefore, they do not follow God. see also in more detail Are 2x2s Christians?

When a (usually married) man wants to move up in the cult, there are certain things he can do usually in this order:
  1. Talk to other of the "friends" and reinforce how great the gospel meetings are.
  2. Set up chairs before meeting
  3. When there are problems, unwaveringly take the side of the workers
  4. Help pay for rented halls
  5. Have a house suitable for Wed/Thu night Bible studies
  6. They may then be asked to be the "backup elder" in case the main elder is sick
  7. Preach to people in their "testimony" and use vague analogies to threaten into silence and submission the "friends" who get out of line to
  8. After proving himself for Bible studies, after a few years may be asked to have a Sunday AM meeting in his home

Responsibilities of Elders

  1. Elders must maintain the appearance of being in line with the workers at all times
  2. Elderes must have an "open home" (where the workers can come and stay at almost any time)
  3. Elders must have a nicer home for the Sunday AM meetings. The elder must set up chairs, prepare bread and fruit drink and set up table (usually) in middle of room.
  4. Elders are in charge to lead Sunday morning meetings if a worker is not present. Workers usually call ahead to let elders know if they are going to be at a Sunday AM meeting. If a worker is present, the elder must relinquish the leading of the meeting to the worker.
  5. Some elders may greet everyone as they come in the door, but those are usually the elders that are looking for "place" and recognition with their fake smile and greeting.

Expectations of Elder's wives

  1. Elders are required to keep the 2x2s in line and are responsible for confronting people who say things that are not allowed in the Sunday AM meeting.
  2. Keep the house clean for every Sunday
  3. Help set up chairs
  4. Get all the kids ready and keep them in line
  5. Be ready to invite people over for lunch after Sun AM meeting if special guests are present
  6. Appear to have a good marriage
  7. Cook and Feed the workers
  8. Wash the workers clothes
  9. Change and wash sheets for the workers

Requirements of Eldership

  1. Agree with everything the overseers and workers in their field teach. Don't contradict them.
  2. Be easy to manipulate and devoted to the 2x2 way: simple minded, brutish
  3. Have enough free time to accommodate the workers needs
  4. Have enough spine to put people down who don't agree with workers
  5. Be generous in giving money. Usually pay for hall rent of at least the Sunday services
  6. Elders are usually required to be married or have been married and have had kids. However, many elders are divorced.
  7. Have a large enough room for meetings

Elders lead Sunday AM meetings. If a worker is present, they must relinquish all control to the worker. If the elder cannot be present, they may request the "backup elder" to lead the meeting.

Elders in the cult around Portland Oregon include : Jeff Uding, Milo Wicks, Jim McDonald, Jim Welsh and others.

Wealthy elders may use their finances to hold and invest money for the overseer to keep the money out of the overseers name. Some elders may be expected to handle Wills left by the deceased. The person (while they were alive) may be asked to leave everything to the elder. The elder is "expected" to pay taxes on this money and then give the money to the "older brother worker" or overseer directly depending on how much money is involved.


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