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Annual 2x2 Conventions
Not Following Scripture
Conventions do not follow any teachings of God at all. Jesus Christ never taught or set up 2x2 conventions. If you think you have some Bible verses to support the 2x2 conventions fully, just put them in the contact form and send them to me.
Purpose of Conventions
The purpose of convention is to create an environment that fosters mind control and the presence of their "spirit" strong enough to get their followers to become workers. It requires providing for all their food and then brain washing them for hours on end for several days. They feed them breakfast, 2 hours brainwashing, lunch, brain washing, supper, brainwashing, hot chocolate, they go to sleep. Now imagine this for three days straight. Three days of brainwashing has a very powerful effect on naive, poor children. The workers don't want people to leave the convention grounds because it diminishes the affect of brainwashing. Conventions were used by William Irvine from the very beginning to gain workers. People who become workers are expected to sell everything and give it to the workers. This gives the workers more control and power over people's lives.
What the Bible says
I looked in the Bible for "conventions" or anything like conventions and did not find anything. The only thing the workers have to talk about even close to conventions are the feasts of the Lord. But having looked at the feasts, they are nothing like conventions. The workers and their followers eat leavened bread during conventions, they do not fast, they do not offer sacrifices to God. In fact, I don't believe the workers know God. They seem to be just following the traditions they have learned from the early workers.
Young Adults Use of Conventions as Cover for Sex
Some young adults use a convention as an excuse for unsupervised absence from their parents from which the young men and women cover their sexual activities. Which makes perfect sense because some workers do this too. Young men and women may go together on road trips together without their parents around, getting a motel along the way. Or may leave the convention to engage in their activities while their parents think that they are at convention.
Workers at preps (preps is short for "preparations" or the preparing of the convention land for the convention) times conventions are like little kids "playing house". It is one of the few times that they construct, maintain and build things.
Young single people go to conventions in other states to find a spouse. As one man said "If you want to find peaches, go to the orchard". Many young girls find it easy to hookup, exchange email addresses and Yahoo ids. It is no surprise the the young folks use conventions as a place to hookup based on what happens with the workers.
When Conventions are Held
Conventions are held annually. They are timed so that 2x2 overseers and 2x2 workers can travel through the US and other parts of the world and attend the conventions sequentially. On occasion, there may be two or three conventions happening at the same time.
Where 2x2 Conventions are held
They are located at a place determined by the overseer on property that is usually "owned" by an individual. The property and buildings may have been paid for in full or part by other people. Sometimes 2x2 overseers or older 2x2 workers provide money for property and buildings. 2x2 overseers are very careful to choose a place where the owner is very convinced of the cult's indoctrination. They are usually held at the same location from year to year because of all the property accumulated and work that has gone into improving the buildings for eating, sleeping and 2x2 indoctrination.
Convention's NameOften the place where the conventions are held are called "convention grounds" or "the grounds" by people in the group. More specifically, the conventions are named after the city they are located in or around. For conventions that are spread out over two weeks, the title may include a number to specify the first or second week of it's proceedings. For example, "Boring I" would be the first week of the convention located in Boring, Oregon.
With all the people and meals to be served, it requires a large sum of money. From my experience, the money is brought by people and usually handed to the workers in envelopes. There are no public finances. Also, older workers at the direction of the 2x2 overseer may ask the 2x2 workers to give them all their money. They then take whatever money they want and give some money back to each individual. This was my experience at the Boring Oregon Conventions.
Convention Property and Dispute of Ownership
Convention Land Property
Sometimes the workers or overseers will give money to the owners to buy some property or help pay for its payments. I have heard during preaching at Boring Oregon the debate as to whether the workers own the convention grounds of if it is actually owned by the individuals whose name is on the title because the workers have given them so much money. There are no publicized records of where the money comes from to build these huge buildings for the purpose of meeting once a year. The group has often denounced Christian churches for building churches that they use every day. But this group spends tens of thousands of dollars on buildings and supplies that are used for maybe 2 weeks out of the year.
Convention Tool Property
The group claims to have no common church property specifically for the group, but it is obvious that when they purchase supplies for a huge convention, it is not for the cows in the field or the trees growing in the nursery. Sometimes in the shops, the tools will be labeled "Boring Convention Grounds" or "Boring Convention" or "Convention" to distinguish tools donated by followers for use during the preparations for the conventions.
Because there are many people that attend the convention, there is a large quantity of chairs and benches. This is also the group's joint property. It is certain that these benches and chairs are not for the cows or trees on the land.It would be interesting to see what an IRS agent could find on tax deductions.
Some of many Conventions in the NorthwestDennis and Zoe Rumsey of Boring, Oregon are part of this group. They "own" the "convention grounds" at Boring Oregon where many members of the group meet once a year.
Parma Idaho 2x2 ConventionDave Waldo 32279 Apple Valley Road Parma, ID 83660 208-722-5513
Saginaw Oregon 2x2 ConventionMilo LiaBraaten 32852 Saginaw W. Road Saginaw, OR 97472 541-942-3264 Here's a partial list of
Western 2x2 Conventions in the USCasa Grande, AZ
Mountain Ranch, CA
Bonners Ferry, ID
Walla Walla, WA
Post Falls, ID
[217, Parma, ID]
Happy TX Convention
George Town Texas Convention
Mountain Peak Texas Convention
Texarkana Texas Convention
Western Canadian ConventionsMellowdale, AB Theodore, SK Prince George, BC Hythe, AB Greenshields, AB Emo, ON Salmon Arm, BC Didsbury, AB Smeaton, SK Bowsman, MB Didsbury, AB Aylesbury, SK Portage la Prairie, MB Duncan, BC Glen Valley, BC
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