Lying and Liars are in Cults

Lying and liars are marks of cults. The apostles warned about liars and told how to spot them. Here are some quotes from Johns letters that warn about liars and how to spot them.

I was reading John's three letters in the Bible the other day and came across some great warnings from John about how to spot liars. He gave some great council based on the laws of God.

1Jn 1:6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:

The 2x2s lie about the origins of their organization. They have covered up sexual abuse by WORKERS. They have moved pedophile WORKERS to other fields to avoid prosecution. And, the FRIENDS continue to financially support the WORKERS even though many know about it. So, from this scripture, we can see easily that the 2x2s lie and are not in the truth. Isn't it fantastic how clear the scripture is to spot cults? The Bible says they lie and do not the truth. Here's another verse that popped right out:

1Jn 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

It's plain to see from the fact that the 2x2s will not fellowship with Christians that they are not walking in the light. This is why they won't fellowship with Christians. They are not cleansed from sin but rather enjoy it from what I see.

1Jn 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.

When WORKERS claim that they are not living in sin while little children suffer, then the Bible says they they are deceiving themselves and the truth is not in them. When 2x2s live in sin with others and justify their sin (claiming no sin indeed), they they are deceiving themselves and the truth is not in them. John is very helpful in his writing about how to identify liars and unrighteous people who justify themselves and claim they are not living in sin. The truth is not in them.

1Jn 1:10 If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

Here John says plainly that if we claim we have not sinned, then we are calling God a liar. That's plain to see. How can a person live in sin, threaten those who expose it and then claim to be Christians? When the WORKERS cover up child sexual abuse and then deny any wrongdoing, they are calling God a liar. The Bible says so. The WORKERS may have deceived themselves and called God a liar, but do you believe they have deceived God?

1Jn 2:3+ And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments. He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

This is excellent council from John. We can just watch people who claim to know God and see if they keep God's commandments. If they don't keep God's commandments, then we know that they don't know God. Of course, if we don't even know the ten commandments, how could we tell if someone is keeping them. If we don't keep God's commandments and make excuses for not keeping them, then we don't know God ourselves. That's really simple. A child can understand this. And when the OLDER BROTHERS, WORKERS and ELDERS claim to know God and have a closer relationship than you, you can just quote 1 John 2:3 and explain that the Bible says that they are liars. How easy is that?

1Jn 2:9 He that saith he is in the light, and hateth his brother, is in darkness even until now.

That's clear. When you have people who hate Christians for speaking the truth, then we know that these people who hate their brother without a cause are in darkness. When people warn others about cults, and they are hated for it, it shows that they are walking in darkness.

1Jn 2:11 But he that hateth his brother is in darkness, and walketh in darkness, and knoweth not whither he goeth, because that darkness hath blinded his eyes.
1Jn 4:20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen? And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

John tells plainly that a person who hates his brother is in darkness because darkness has blinded him. How hurt do you think Christians are when they tell the truth and are called liars? How do you think God feels about it when people hate his own children? The Bible is clear that those who hate their own brother but claim to love God are liars. Man is made in God's image. If we hate other men who we can see, how can we love God?

1Jn 2:16 For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

This verse says that the lust of the flesh is worldly. That means that the WORKERS who lie to kids about the origins of the cult, BROTHER WORKERS who fornicate with SISTER WORKERS, adultery of WORKERS with married men and women "FRIENDS", 2x2s living together out of wedlock, 2x2s slandering people and manipulating others to justify their sin and such, that they are worldly. Yep, the Bible says that they are worldly. I was wrong when I thought for all those years that people were worldly if they didn't PROFESS! I was lied to and didn't even understand the basic words clearly defined by scripture.

No Lie From God

1Jn 2:21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth. Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

2x2s lie about their origins. 2x2s often claim that William Irvine was not their founder. They lie about who can take part in MEETINGS. They lie about the 2x2s being "non-denominational Christians". The Bible says that no lie is of the truth. Who are you going to believe? 2x2s or God?

The 2x2s deny that Jesus Christ is the Christ or Savior of mankind? How you ask? You say they claim to believe in Jesus Christ? Well, I ask this: If they really believe that Jesus is the Christ, then why do they hinder people from obeying God's word and why do they lie to people? Why do they add to the commandments of God so they can justify not obeying the commandments of God? The The Bible teaches that no lie is of the truth. You see, they say what people want to hear but their actions show that they hate Jesus Christ. I have learned from their deeds that they believe Jesus Christ is a liar.

1Jn 3:4 Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.

The Bible clearly defines sin here. And this is why people who are living in sin break laws. Because sin is the transgression of the law. And this is why sinners don't believe in keeping the commandments of God: It is the very definition of sin. Sin is breaking the laws of God. When they sin, lie, deceive and break the commandments and deny any wrongdoing or that they are living in sin, and Christians, then they are in fact calling God a liar. And who can call God a liar and at the same time claim to believe in Jesus Christ? The Bible is clear that anyone living in sin, breaking the laws of God, slanders Christians and claims they are not sinning but love Jesus Christ, is in fact a liar.

Children of the Devil

1Jn 3:10 In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother.

The Bible is also clear that people who live in unrighteousness, but justify it and don't love their brother are in fact children of the devil. I have written before on this website about people who I believed where a child of the devil, and here you have the logic for it. Justifying sin and hating Christians are two clear marks of people who are a child of the devil.

1Jn 3:11 For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.

Some people have tried to claim that the love of God is doing what they want others to do. But the Bible teaches us to love others as Jesus loves us. This is the gospel message from the beginning. God wants us to love one another and not live in sin.

1Jn 3:14 We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death.

Here John tells ever so plainly that life is when we love the brethren. Many know how the 2x2s will not fellowship with Christians, lie about it and try to deceive others about this fact. This shows that they are abiding in death. Sin leads to death and blindness. The 2x2s rejection of the word of God, the laws of God and fellowship with Christians show that they are abiding in death.

And I will add, that anyone who claims that a child of the devil who lives in sin, deceives others and encourages others to live in sin is not a child of God, but is walking in darkness. God does not promote cults, is not the author of cults and is not the author of confusion.

1Jn 2:15 Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.

Christians love God, love the brethren as Jesus Christ teaches, keep the commandments of God and promote faith in God. If you are in a church that does not teach and practice these things, then show them the simple writings of the Bible. If they reject loving any of the brethren, reject any of the things Jesus Christ teaches, don't believe in all ten of the commandments of God, then these people are walking in darkness. And if you continue with them, then you will become like them or perhaps you already are.

Signs You are In a Cult

  • You say you love God but hate a Christian
  • You say you love God, but you don't keep the ten commandments of God
  • You say you love God, but live in sin
  • You say you love God, but you get angry at people who show you are living in sin
  • You say you love God, but reject some teachings of Jesus Christ
  • You say you love God, but are not righteous
  • You say you love God, but fellowship with worldly people

For Christians

Don't give up your faith in God for a seducer.

1Jn 2:24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father. And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life. These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you. But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. And now, little children, abide in him; that, when he shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before him at his coming.

Hated by Cultists

If you warn people in cults and warn people being seduced by cultists, you will be hated.

1Jn 3:13 Marvel not, my brethren, if the world hate you. We know that we have passed from death unto life, because we love the brethren. He that loveth not his brother abideth in death. Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.

Keep His Commandments

If you keep the commandments of Jesus Christ, don't be surprised when they say you have a wrong spirit, an evil spirit etc. They don't like the Spirit of God.

1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.

Why They Won't Listen to Warnings

1Jn 4:6 We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

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